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    Queen's Own Rifles of Canada - Latest Find

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    Post by qsamike Sat May 04, 2013 9:53 pm

    Good Evening Everyone…..

    Just returned home from Garage Sale’ing this morning and I am ecstatic with my finds……

    At one location I was able to obtain a Military Drum, a Victorian Queens Own Rifles of Canada and a Victorian / Boer War Canadian Helmet Plate…..

    I asked the seller, who was in his early 20’s, if he had any knowledge of who it belonged to but he did not it was just in among a number of items that he had been given by his Grandfather, where he had obtained them he had no idea…… I asked but there were no medals of any kind to be found…..

    The drum is marked with a makers name: “Whaley Royce & Co. / Limited / Toronto…… This according to what I can find it is a model “B” and has the serial number H330 again what I can find out so far means that it is Drum 330 manufactured in the year “H” which was 1895….. The company imported a line of musical instruments that the sold under the “Imperial” name and so marked so this one was made in Canada….. I understand that up until 1920 they made their own instruments along with importing them….

    Now here is where I try to put 2 and 2 together……

    I am sure that the Queen’s Own must have had a Band at that time, the turn of the century, and maybe this drum was used by them at that time…. The Owner of the Cap Badge may have been a drummer and been one of the volunteers with the Second Special Service Battalion that was formed for service in South Africa….. When he returned he may have gone back into the band…..

    I know that the wooden rings are painted Red / Blue / White / Blue / Red which has been repainted and the ropes have been most likely replaced and have been whitened with webbo. The snare lines underneath are cat gut and the material holding the leather tension straps are also cat gut I do not know when that was last used…..

    I am going to leave it the way it is and not even clean the brass……

    If there are any experts out there that have any knowledge about military band instruments please let me know your ideas……

    What would have been the colours on the wood if the drum had been Q.O.R....

    Thanks for looking……

    Mike


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    Post by RCN Sailor Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:45 pm

    Mike if I ever get to your neck of the woods please take me garage saling as you seem to be the luckiest bu..er ever.not worthy hahaha 
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    Post by barriefield-brian Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:35 pm

    Can I get in that garage sale line???? Wow, great finds Mike. Cheers Brian
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    Post by qsamike Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:40 pm

    You are more than welcome to join me on a Saturday morning.....

    Not going to tell you what I found this last weekend......

    Heading off to France, Holland and to England for the OMRS convention on the weekend.....

    Mike

    RCN Sailor wrote:Mike if I ever get to your neck of the woods please take me garage saling as you seem to be the luckiest bu..er ever.not worthy hahaha 
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    Post by qsamike Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:41 pm

    Thanks Brian, Yes you may......

    Mike

    barriefield-brian wrote:Can I get in that garage sale line????   Wow, great finds Mike.  Cheers Brian
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    Post by qsamike Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:45 pm

    Oh Yes.....

    I read this on another forum.......

    And I Quote......

    Briefly--My friend, a pilot, heard that someone was putting curbside for the garbageman, 2 boxes of Brit and German medals, helmets, those death pennies, some books and this album from the Victorian and WWI era, He drove 100Kms to save them. There they were curbside,with the garbage/recycling. The family/owners not interested in their distant relatives personal military stuff and some from POW's he handled. --Sad but true.

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    Post by Jonhno Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:03 am

    great finds, I have found one helmet so far at yard sales here but one ww1 camo german helmet at a carboot in the UK, dont have the time to go looking really at the moment as we have a 5 month old, great to see what other people find though,

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